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An attempt to increase productivity in the forums.
« on: June 16, 2007, 06:53:16 PM »
Okay, I really think there should be passwords on the manga that you can only get from the forums. It just bothers me that the site gets so many frickin' visitors and there's no one on the forums. I know the whole point of this site was for free manga and all, but it'd be nice to talk to some other people besides the ones that are bored with nothing to do. Namely me.

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Re: An attempt to increase productivity in the forums.
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2007, 07:13:08 PM »
yeah, that's a nice idea!!! I had this friend of mine who has her own scan group and she first set up her site in Myspace.com. She placed passwords on all the files and the only way for you to get them was to post comments... and for you to post comments, you have to add her to your friend's list and for her to add you to hers.... it was quite ingenious actually.... ^^

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Re: An attempt to increase productivity in the forums.
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2007, 02:39:37 AM »
Haha, that's also one thing that many people have been doing nowadays and having all the mangas in forums. I don't really know about that. Maybe for the really rare mangas ... I mean it does bother me that not many people post in the forums but having easily accessible mangas is one of the main goals for this site. Changing that may affect the overall flow of site. Need more opinions on this.

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Re: An attempt to increase productivity in the forums.
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2007, 08:27:33 AM »
Trust me, easily accessible is an understatement right now. You currently have hundreds upon hundreds of manga downloads available, and you update regularly. You don't even need to request manga, because of that. All we really do is makes sure there aren't any dead links.

Maybe we should put all licensed ones in the forums.

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Re: An attempt to increase productivity in the forums.
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2007, 10:56:39 AM »
Not put them in forums, but just password protect them. It will be easier to find them that way.

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Re: An attempt to increase productivity in the forums.
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2007, 02:52:14 AM »
Hmmm... that's a good idea ^^..... but even so, one of our goals is to also increase the people who interact in the forums....

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Re: An attempt to increase productivity in the forums.
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2007, 02:11:08 PM »
..... assigning a password to rare mangas is a good idea.
But the problem is we don't have rare mangas...
Other manga sites have the same mangas as we do or perhaps more....
We can only have rare mangas if we do our own scanlations >_>

...hmm, maybe you can put up a system instead,
for example... each user have credits like a limit of 10 volumes at first...
if your credits are all used up, you need to post in the forum for more credits which means more mangas to download....
and if a user posted unrelated things (spamming) and violated forum rules
then their credits will be deducted...  wish i'm clear enough ^^

lol, dunno but when i encounter sites that you need a password and you need to do this and that, i get irritated and just leave >_<

« Last Edit: June 19, 2007, 02:15:06 PM by pauline5765 »

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Re: An attempt to increase productivity in the forums.
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2007, 06:17:57 PM »
You mean like VNManga? Like their currency thing? Well all their downloads are direct from their own servers... Doing the credit thing would mean we would need our own server, because we can't keep track using uploading sites.

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Re: An attempt to increase productivity in the forums.
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2007, 08:29:31 PM »
..... just googled vnmanga
hmm, putting up our own server would cost much, doesn't it? bad idea >_>

well, then we'll end up putting passwords after all....
but it won't be that user-friendly anymore...

let me think again ... @_@
uhm... just a wild idea, I notice that this forum has those level things, you know, the pebble...copper member, etc.
....and the levels are based on the number of posts...
what if the users in the pebble level can only dl the unlicensed mangas
and other higher level forum users can dl more, including the licensed ones....
so you basically need to have a forum account in order to download, if not then you won't
get any.... so having more members posting in the forums for the sake of increasing their
number of posts would hype up the forum and they may eventually enjoy staying here

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but i don't have any idea on how to do that xD

LOL it's just a wild idea coz im against the passwords thing....  :crybaby2:
« Last Edit: June 19, 2007, 08:38:09 PM by pauline5765 »

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Re: An attempt to increase productivity in the forums.
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2007, 08:41:07 PM »
Yes well, I'm also hesitant about the password thing because a lot of other forum based sites are already doing that. They move everything into their forums just to get to download the mangas. I mean not just login but have to post like 10-30  posts. Sometimes those posts are just thank yous and other spam type of comments.
There has to be another way to attract visitors to post comments in the forum. Nothing to do with moving mangas to the forum I hope.

I made my site so that it is easy to access the mangas. And I cannot afford to get a paid hosting service because that would just be too expensive. Everything we put up are free so why ask the visitors to pay just to keep the site up.

Hmm how do the VNManga keep track of their downloads? Arent I already doing that by the number of clicks that a user has clicked on the manga?

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Re: An attempt to increase productivity in the forums.
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2007, 08:21:18 AM »
I dunno, their currency system depends on how much you post. The most you can get in one post is twenty coppers, it takes ten coppers to download one volume and one copper to download a single chapter. However you can only download ten tems a day. It countsdown when the download begins.

I like the post idea. That's what Esthetique does. Like NC-17 ones are also restricted to those who are active. I believe what they do is have twenty-five posts then you can apply. Then a mod checks out their posts and there are certain areas where the posts don't count.

I don't like the password idea.

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Re: An attempt to increase productivity in the forums.
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2007, 10:35:17 AM »
I like the post idea too.

I think we need to remove the chatterbox.. i feel like more ppl comment on there becuase they want quick responses rather than the whole registering process.  It might help to increase productivity in forums =/

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Re: An attempt to increase productivity in the forums.
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2007, 04:02:48 PM »
The chat box can be moved to the main site. The chat box is pointless in the middle a forum.

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Re: An attempt to increase productivity in the forums.
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2007, 09:26:05 PM »
yeah, you're right... people post there instead of in the forums...I'm also all for the post idea...

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...hmm, maybe you can put up a system instead,
for example... each user have credits like a limit of 10 volumes at first...
if your credits are all used up, you need to post in the forum for more credits which means more mangas to download....
and if a user posted unrelated things (spamming) and violated forum rules
then their credits will be deducted...  wish i'm clear enough ^^

lol, dunno but when i encounter sites that you need a password and you need to do this and that, i get irritated and just leave >_<
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But i also agree with pauline on this one...
Well, seems like one has to sacrifice one to have the other....

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Re: An attempt to increase productivity in the forums.
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2007, 12:15:41 AM »
Many people seems to like the post idea. Now my question is how can this be done? I'll just let you all know that the forum is not connected whatsoever with the manga downloads section. They are both in different servers and are using a different logic function for them to work.

The posting works well with other sites that are focused mostly on the forum like SV Loyalty. Many of the members there do not have access to the mangas until they actually register and log in. That is why that site has a lot of posts everyday. But there is something more than that and that is what we all need to figure out.

My site is divided into 4 different groups. The main site, the manga downloads, the Fans Media Blogs (mostly for Asian Music) and the forum.

The main site has basic information of my favorites and lists. The manga downloads is self explanatory. The Fans Media Blogs, need someone to help me out and provide content for the artists or dramas. The Fans Media Blogs is also similar to the Forum, a lot of members, but no one really participating in the discussions.
The forum needs a new concept. Something that other sites have not done before. It should not limit manga downloads. I know of other forums that have no manga downloads, but still have a lot of members posting everyday. One reason I know of is content. People want to see something different compared to other sites. Like why would you join a forum if they are offering similar things that bigger sites are already offering?

Basically, need more clarification for the post idea? Explain it clearly so I can figure out whether it can be done or not. I would need to program the logic for it and I need more info from all of you guys.